INVALID as a part is, isolated from its whole

Now the hc, our reality and situation, is a questionable thing.2 May15 with side 5a

We’re incomplete.
And we’re stuck with the wot (world out there) that seems to be there, before we notice it. We have both inside and outside worlds. Are they real?

There’s our deeper sense. But is there a whole self?

There must be a whole self, a whole being, living and alive, of reality, and who creates us, our selves as an identity and the reality we experience.

2 May15  side 2aYes, we exist, but as a part of the whole body, created by him/her, arranged and placed or “projected” from the whole body’s CNS (Central Nervous System).

The whole body is in and of reality. We are a projected part identified with what we experience.

It means our reality’s apparent objectivity, independence and realness is provided for us by the whole body. Our reality can be a good indication or version of what’s in the world.

The issues of subjectivity, perception and perspective, and certainty can be considered more fully with orientation to our reality being a projected part of our whole self.

Our reality is subjective because, in the first place, it is created by a whole being, as well as because of us, being the subject, experiencing and interpreting what is experienced.

Within our reality it seems we directly touch and see what is in the world, but as in the movie Matrix, that is not the real world. For us to think that we “perceive”, there’s a whole being in the real world for whom the issues of perception and perspective are “real”. He/she projects our sense of being in the world. We can think that we see, but it is the whole body who has the eyes, and gives us vision with all its characteristics including perception and perspective.2 May15  side 0

And as for certainty, it’s all in our mind. What we try to determine and know can escape our grasp the harder we try (prove), till we are left more with our trying (to prove), to know (notion) and grasp (sense). Indeed the only thing we can be certain of may be that we think, when we do – “I think therefore I am (thinking)”. However, we can see the circular or contained situation of trying to prove our selves within our reality, if we understand our reality is not complete but a projected part of our whole. We can also consider being a projected part of a whole being, and look for certainty in a relation with our whole of reality.

Notes and a poem or two

hc.r : our self an actuality, the whole body of reality
The self and our reality as actuality, projection and part of whole body. Invalid as an isolated part, an identity identified with its self and its experiences.
The whole body is in and of reality, creation, is reality and includes his/her projected parts.

We, us, our selves being me,
the identity in the hc,
an “it” compared to our whole
who is a who.

Certainty : Munchhausen’s trilemma
Munchhausen’s trilemma describes the impossibility of a proof needing proof to validate the proof, never proving anything – except in the three incomplete ways of infinitism –on and on, circularity – round in circles, and foundationalism – assumption that may be useful or is had by those concerned. We can only be certain in our minds and that certainty in three incomplete ways. It seems much escapes our mind’s grasp, of things and of our self.

Try to prove or be true

Try to prove
what’s right
that it is right
How can you be certain?
Can you be sure?

Prove that it is right
what you know and grasp

Try being true
to your self
Settle in place
as part of your whole self

Prove you are validside stupa and base 26
in your notion and sense

Try becoming true
to whole self
Play your part
as part of a whole being

Prove you are there
in your feeling and being

Be true
to whole body
Level your head
as part of the whole body

We think we think, see and do when it is the whole body who has the eyes, brain and hands to touch and move etc.

Also our whole body is made to level the brain, hang the spine and settle the trunk upon level pelvis or the other end.

The “other-end” is the clue to the whole body, in and of gravity ie solid mass, our whole self alive, a whole being present in the present and included in whom is our projected part. Like the base to an upright stupa or pagoda (a tiered Buddhist tower with several levels, and usually with multiple eaves in the Far East, usually built over some Buddhist artefact), it supports our CNS (Central Nervous System), which in turn floats our realities in levels like the levels of a pagoda.

Our trunk has a front and a back, and is upright. It has a middle with left and right halves, and sides to the left and to the right, each with an inside and an outside. While the trunk is vertically orientated, the other-end is level. Our hind legs have evolved to extend straight underneath our upright trunk. Our other–end can not only bear our trunk-al extent, but with waist, hip and haunch squares off or quarters on each leg (that is of right angled ankle and knee) as if on all fours. It is a part of the evolutionary leap that lead to our level brain and vertical spine.

I experience the experiencer

In a recent post, I pointed out the multi-point nature of reality and the whole body (being of reality), and the perspectives we hold, in our minds, a point in our projected reality with. Following on from there is the hc and reality in the first person. Poem: “multi-point reality” below.

 

I am in the human condition, an identity having an experience. There’s what I experience in my mind, and I am conscious of the world. The conscious is conscious of my reality, the world and what I may experience, in the mind, in feeling and being.

The conscious is conscious of the world. They seem to be there before me and my noticing and sensing, before I open my eyes.

The conscious is conscious of both the world outside, inside and me. I am aware of what the witness witnesses.

I may be knowing in my conscious identity (of what the conscious is conscious of), and in my mind identity of what I experience, notice and form notions about. Body, feeling and being are reduced to what I know or notice of them, till integration with my whole and becoming a part, takes me beyond “me and what I know” conscious of mind to knowing- feeling, and to knowing-feeling-being, and generally towards the rest of my projected reality.

I am made of various projected parts and entities that I may sense or be, including those forgotten or subconscious. My entirety is more than the sum of my parts, within a whole being  who is also more than the sum of his parts. My truth is in becoming a projected part, of a whole being including his projected parts (and so my reality).

Before this, I am flawed as a part isolated from its whole, lost identified within the human condition, in what I experience, am, feel and know. The whole self is beyond me and my experience, beyond my knowing and unknowing, feeling, being and my more, my all and all that I may be and am. The whole body encompass my all including “me and my not-me”, “me and my other” in my reality, conscious of and witnessed.

The whole is more complete for having more integrated parts. From having isolated parts, the whole self is more integrated in his being in and of reality.

Ed from original 10Jan15

 

multi-point reality (a real reference and our self referential perspective)

perspective determine our place in our time,
captured in time, depends on perspective
that point indicated perceived

a point in reality we may identify and discuss,
you and me, many perspectives
reality is multi-point in reality
whole body be multi=point
in and of reality

 

Original poem 30Dec15, Last 2 lines and title brackets added

A discourse on reality

Edited from comments and replies on http://abozdar.wordpress.com/2014/09/12/reality/#comment-15629

What seems to us, is not what it is in reality.

The question is, is there anything called reality, isn’t everything and all perception and observation 🙂

It’s all experience. And where we ask questions and expect an answer is in our minds, in projection. But our all is a part of our whole, the whole body in reality who projects or creates and places our reality.

Let me extend this further, the whole body is also part of our experience as well. Does that mean since we observe its exists and if we stop observing it won’t 🙂

The whole body we experience is not the whole body in reality. What we experience is what the whole body has projected that we may identify with. Our experiences may indicate something of what is real.

If we experience a tree falling, that experience may be an indication of a tree falling in reality or not (illusion, memory, imaginings etc). Even if we do not see it, trees fall, in reality. There is more to reality than what we may perceive and observe, sense and form notions about – more to what is in reality, and more to what is reality.

For us it seems, there is no more to reality than what we can experience of it, in projection projected from the whole body in reality. Except however, the whole body, in reality, we individually belong to. He or she responds to us like no other thing in reality. Of course, the whole body does or enacts what we think we are doing, and projects our self, the world and our sense of being in the world. But more so, rather than identified in what we experience, we may be affected by our whole in we making our selves presentable by being actual. Our knowing, feeling and deeper sense of being (cognitive, emotive and somatic) but also gut instinctive, intuitive, and deeper realms, may be integrated with the whole self, rather than disassociated in what we determine and identify with of what we may experience at each of those levels. I believe it is in humanity’s interest for us as an identity to relate with our whole, merely for being a part.

I want to establish a distinction between reality and our projected reality of the self and its experience, between the self or identity and other aspects of the self, and the whole self, whole being or whole body.

Our reality, our all, may be determined absolutely as experience, captured as actuality, and as projection, related with our whole who is in and of reality.

Reality

What is reality? Is not everything perception and observation?

Many things are called reality. There’s what we may experience that we think we perceive and observe. The self who experiences, thinks it observes, perceives, sees, does and thinks it thinks is an elusive entity, but is there for us to be having an experience. Our reality includes our self, together with the conscious, witness, deeper being, and what we may experience. The actual self is a disassociation of those aspects – I recognise it as the void or Emptiness, through which we are having an experience.

From actuality we can either go back to “me and my experience”, or refer to our whole. A whole being in reality projects, or creates and places, from his or her Central nervous System, our reality of perception and observation, including what we may think we see that the whole body has “seen” with real eyes and allows us to think we see.

Everything that we experience and think and feel we are, is projection in projection, and encompassed by the whole body in reality. Our all is experience and a projected part of our whole. We can only experience things as projected by the whole body. However, the whole body (his or her whole self), to whom we as an identity belong, is a special entity in reality we are affected and influenced by. From within our all we may relate with our whole.